Content Warning: this episode contains discussion of violence, murder, suicide, workplace incidents and deaths, and also contains some strong language.

 Series 2, Episode 5:

 The fifth and final interview of series two features Phil Court, discussing his time in the construction industry, from scaffolding and the BLF to training and inspecting. He also talks safety, writing the Concrete Gang theme song, and his later role as a Presbyterian Minister. 

 The COTI podcasts are sponsored by the Concrete Gang in cooperation with 3CR Community Radio. 
 For a full list of episodes, visit www.3cr.org.au/coti