*Content Warning: This episode of Doin' Time may contain audio images of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people who have died, and discussion of Deaths in Custody.

 Many targeted racialised groups understand their differential treatment by police, but what kind of formal data collection or publication is available about police encounters with the public?

 This episode of Doin' Time features an extended interview with Dr Tamar Hopkins, following on from last week's discussion.

 Today she joins Marisa on the program to discuss her 2022 PhD thesis entitled Understanding Racial Profiling in Australia, providing an in-depth breakdown of her research methods, aims and findings, and the lack of formalised data or legal precedents (and experience at the Flemington & Kensington Community Legal Centre) which led her to this work, and what it means going forward.

 Importantly, she notes "clear evidence that there are two systems of policing in Victoria - a more 'textbook' version that the police roll out when they are policing white people," versus a "speculative, invasive, and humiliating type... when police are policing particular racialised groups."

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