Jennifer speaks with Elsa Tuet-Rosenberg who is a queer, multi-racial Jewish and Chinese woman of colour, and co-founder of anti-racism organisation, Hue.

Elsa talks about her experiences in the community service sector that led to the setting up of Hue - from training as a Social Worker to stints in community organisations that practiced racism and various forms of oppression.

She describes how Hue does things differently for the benefit of both workers and communities, with a core focus on building and honouring relationships, while drawing on the wisdom and knowledge of people experiencing racism and exclusion.