While the federal government's "2023 Intergenerational Report" might contain some useful data, economist Bill Mitchell helps us to understand what all the hand-waving is about. We then return to the second half of our conversation with Alan Kohler, and range over topics from government surpluses to climate change. This was our chance to discover how much we might have in common with a mainstream commentator who takes progressive economics into consideration. There is definitely some overlap. But we would frame the problems and solutions in language that makes it clear that the Australian government can never run out of Australian dollars.

Show Notes

Treasurer Jim Chalmers addressing the National Press Club of Australia
24th August, 2023

Policy Forum Podcast
Budget beyond the numbers with Treasurer Dr Jim Chalmers
featuring a talk by Chalmers on May 31st, 2023 at the ANU, Crawford School of Public Policy

Excerpts from House Question Time, 22 June 2023

Stephanie Kelton's book, The Deficit Myth, which is right, and which we are doing our best to make a part of the political mainstream.

Theme Music

Pleading Ignorance, by Ed Kuepper, from the album Starstruck.

Additional Audio

Beautiful World by Devo

Too Many Things, by Ed Kuepper, from the album Starstruck.

Quiz Show Background Music Loop with changes
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Ride To The City
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