Today we speak with Zelda Grimshaw from Wage Peace about the upcoming ‘Disrupt Sea Forces’ mobilisation that aims to disrupt the naval version of Land Forces, ‘Indo Pacific 2023’ at the Sydney Harbour Convention Centre from 5-9 November. They are welcoming peace and climate justice allies to gather in opposition to the weapons manufacture and to work towards #EarthcareNotWarfare. Wage Peace won World Beyond War’s ‘War Abolisher of the Year award’ this year. We also hear about the Peace Pod listening parties that you can join online for their recently released podcast series ‘Get your armies off our bodies’ and bring you an excerpt from the episode ‘Always was, Always will be’ featuring Googatha Mula elder Aunty Sue Coleman-Haseldine.