Chris Phillips is a serious person who is big on personal pledges. He grew up a strong Catholic in Box Hill, but didn't take 'the pledge'. He did it tough at tech school in Abbotsford before moving into a carpentry apprecticeship at 16. At some stage, Chris became a committed union organiser for the Building Workers Industrial Union, tackling poor working conditions, keeping the bosses honest and working hard on the shorter hours campaign. He was married on his 23rd birthday. Later on, during one of his many exciting travel trips, Chris was shot on a highway in New Orleans during the acclaimed Jazz Fest. It's a cracker story and we will let him tell it himself. In 2024, Chris works as a volunteer in palliative care, just because he can. A man of his word is Chris and we thank him so gratefully for being our guest this week. Thanks for the important changes you helped usher in for working people in Australia, Chris! Keep up the staunch attitude.