This week's episode of Women on the Line features two important discussions about the everyday operation and effects of racism on Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people.

First, we hear from Kerry Klimm, a Kuku Yalanji and Koko Lama Lama woman living in Meanjin, who speaks about being subject to - and fighting - institutional racism while working in the not-for-profit sector, and the lasting toll this has taken on her health and wellbeing.

We are then joined by Associate Professor Chelsea Watego, a Munanjahli and South Sea Islander woman whose work has interrogated the role of race in the production of health inequalities. Chelsea expands on the way that Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people experience, theorise and resist racism every day.