On this week's episode we bring you a conversation I had with Nisha Thapliyal, an academic at the University of Newcastle who is researching social justice activism in the contemporary Indian diaspora, and Saba Zaidi Abdi, a Muslim journalist, creative director and actor from India who has lived in Australia for over 30 years, on the Hindu nationalist government in India and the escalating violence against Muslims in India. This conversation first aired on 3CR Tuesday Breakfast on 8 August 2023.