Back in September 2023, I broadcast a three part series called Incarcerated Women and the California Bushfires.

In the current bushfires raging across California, there are more than 900 incarcerated people among the more than 7,500 personnel, fighting those fires. I thought it was a great time to revisit this really important conversation.

Today I am only going to replay Part 1, but you can go to our podcast page to listen back on the other two episodes.

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This conversation between activist scholars Sarah Haley and Romarilyn Ralston takes as a point of departure the firefighting labor of people imprisoned in California’s women’s prisons. The discussion considers the specific contradictions of that forced labor and meanders to cover the carceral state’s relationship to disappearance, precarity, interiority, intimacy, possibility, performance, and violence.